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    Originally posted by Cleetus
    The problem is when they forget their clients...The viewing public. Going on strike instead of play offs is just a slap in the face of the fans. I know it is a good bargaining chip, but when you do this to the fans, you are going to lose a lot of business and a lot of credibility.
    I think it was a bigger slap in the face calling the all-star game a tie because the players might get tired.

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    Originally posted by imaeditedbysowulo
    It's not just us that purchase the Olympics, it's everyone. The Olympics are just like everything else in the world, for sale to the highest bidder.
    Yeah you're probably right. I guess the Americans are the only ones to get caught.

    McGwire used creatine, which was/is readily available at any GNC, but I don't believe he ever used anabolic steroids. I think he's too classy to do something that would be considered 'cheating the game'.
    Yeah, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that he did take roids at one point in his life. Considering the skinny little guy he used to be compared to the tank he was when he hit 70 home runs...

    Look at the guy, he retired because he didn't feel like he was performing at an acceptable level. Most other people would have continued taking that fat paycheck regardless of how they performed.

    To me, that's respectable.
    Yeah I agree with that, and I'll always be one of his biggest fans. He was an all-class guy.

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    I think of it this way, if the players did not make all the money, where would all that money go???

    In the pocket of the big wigs! Not to say that those big wigs don't get paid mucho money, but to give them more and the players less would not be right.

    Of course they could just charge less for admission and hats, ect. But we all know that will not happen!

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    Originally posted by Thunderwind
    I think of it this way, if the players did not make all the money, where would all that money go???

    In the pocket of the big wigs! Not to say that those big wigs don't get paid mucho money, but to give them more and the players less would not be right.

    Of course they could just charge less for admission and hats, ect. But we all know that will not happen!
    It would if noone went to major league games and we all spent our hard earned money on minor league games...

    But we all know that would not happen!

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    Tom Hicks pays $250 MILLION DOLLARS for a ten-year contract with Alex Rodriguez.

    Tom Hicks whines about being broke just a year later.

    The owners, when thay want a winning team bad enough, whip out their pocketbooks and basically tell all players that the sky is the limit. The Dinner Bell is ringing...
    And there are no poor team owners, these guys are doing just fine... Not to mention that some teams are owned by multi-billion-dollar corporations....

    Agents screw the owners to get as much as they can for the players, so their take goes up in turn.

    It's not just the fault of the players.

    Now, stand back while I burst the bubble here: This is rampant Capitalism. Baseball is a business. And Baseball is a reflection of America.
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    Originally posted by Stanley_Kubrick
    The owners, when thay want a winning team bad enough, whip out their pocketbooks and basically tell all players that the sky is the limit. The Dinner Bell is ringing...

    (SARCASM)
    What??? Noone does that!!!!!! (/SARCASM)

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    Originally posted by Draggar



    Hmm, what do they all have in common? Oh, yeah, none play today. Are any of the "classic players" left?

    I can't think of any.......

    I can:

    Roger Clemens (6 time Cy Young award winner)

    Sammy Sosa (only player ever to hit 60 HR 3 times)

    Barry Bonds (500 HR 500 steals)

    Derek Jeter (just a winner)

    Greg Maddux(only player ever to win 4 cy young awards in a row)

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    I'm 44 and have been a baseball participant and fan most of my life. Go . I've been an O's fan since 1963 and been through the many great years (alas most of them many years ago) and the lean years (all to often here lately). I became a D'backs fan in '98. Baseball lost me in 1994, but regained me in 1998 and hooked me last year with the run of the Diamondbacks. Living in Tucson my son and I saw 25 games last year at BOB, and at least 10 Tucson Sidewinders (AAA) games. Now they are ready to pee all of it away and I think they will. Baseball has no focus. Their management leadership is a joke (can you say Bud Light) and the union leadership is not much better. The All-Star game ends in a kissing your sister and they have called for a strike in mid-September-1994 again . I mean come on folks MLB has it's collective heads in the sand. They have filed an injunction against the baseball umpires er...you just broke the old union and now your vexing the new more League friendly union...geez give me a break!!! I think the best thing that could ever happen to MLB is let it lose it's Anti-Trust exemption, then maybe some sanity would reign.
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    Originally posted by Stanley_Kubrick


    I can:

    Roger Clemens (6 time Cy Young award winner)
    Yep, and left the Red Sox and went to the Blue Jays just so he could get a World Series ring. Didn't get it with the Blue Jays so he went to the Yankees.


    Sammy Sosa (only player ever to hit 60 HR 3 times)
    Barry Bonds (500 HR 500 steals)
    Those two are just a pair, I'll give you those...


    Derek Jeter (just a winner)
    Don't know him too well...


    Greg Maddux(only player ever to win 4 cy young awards in a row)
    Isn't there another Braves pitcher who is really good.. I want to say Andy Bennis, but I don't think its him....

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    Originally posted by Stanley_Kubrick
    Sammy Sosa (only player ever to hit 60 HR 3 times)

    Barry Bonds (500 HR 500 steals)
    The MLB posterboys for what roids can do for you. I still find it strange to see Bonds not weigh 180 pounds, and stealing bases.

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    Originally posted by kingtbone


    The MLB posterboys for what roids can do for you. I still find it strange to see Bonds not weigh 180 pounds, and stealing bases.
    Look at Jose Canseco in his prime. 40/40 club.
    Anyone remember that??

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