CAT5 connecting computers at home

[Humilliation]

I've got a lot of dead spools of CAT5 at work(no more than 30'on a spool)and I was wondering if I'd be able to use this cable to connect all of the systems in my home together using a HUB?

I'd also like to know whether I could just use the CAT5 cable to just connect two computers together using SMC 10/100 NICs.

Any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance

[Sowulo]

1) Yes, why should your home be any different than work?

2) Yes, but without a hub it needs to be a crossover rather than a straight-thru.

[Humilliation]

I just wanted to confirm that I could use this cable and do what I wanted with it.

Thank you very much for your fast answer Sowulo, much appreciated. Thanks

[Humilliation]

Originally posted by Sowulo:
1) Yes, why should your home be any different than work?

2) Yes, but without a hub it needs to be a crossover rather than a straight-thru.

How would I go about making a crossover cable? Would I have to just make the cable like, pin1-orange thru like pin8-blue then on the other end make pin1-blue and pin8-orange? Just reverse the way I install the cable into the ends? Or just make them the same?

[Higg]

Originally posted by humiliation:
How would I go about making a crossover cable? Would I have to just make the cable like, pin1-orange thru like pin8-blue then on the other end make pin1-blue and pin8-orange? Just reverse the way I install the cable into the ends? Or just make them the same?

Nope... what you name is a special cisco-cable named "rollover"-cable (used for connecting the serial input)
The meaning of crossover in general means connecting the transmitting pin (tx) with the receiving one (rx).

In Ethernet RJ-45 connectors that goes like this:
<pre>
1 - 3
2 - 6
3 - 1
6 - 2
</pre>

1+2 is a pair, 3+6 is a pair
4+5 and 7+8 are pairs that don't change... and for normal 10BaseT/100BaseT you don't need them

standard colors for straight-cable-pins:
<pre>
EIA-568B
1:White/0range
2:Orange
3:White/Green
4:Blue
5:White/Blue
6:Green
7:White/Brown
8:Brown
</pre>

[Humilliation]

Originally posted by Higg:

Nope... what you name is a special cisco-cable named "rollover"-cable (used for connecting the serial input)
The meaning of crossover in general means connecting the transmitting pin (tx) with the receiving one (rx).

In Ethernet RJ-45 connectors that goes like this:
<pre>
1 - 3
2 - 6
3 - 1
6 - 2
</pre>

1+2 is a pair, 3+6 is a pair
4+5 and 7+8 are pairs that don't change... and for normal 10BaseT/100BaseT you don't need them

standard colors for straight-cable-pins:
<pre>
EIA-568B
1:White/0range
2:Orange
3:White/Green
4:Blue
5:White/Blue
6:Green
7:White/Brown
8:Brown
</pre>

So are you saying that I could make a crossover cable by jumbling the wires around?

The (EIA-B*) crossover cable

connector #1
1-wht/org
2-org/wht
3-wht/grn
4-blu/wht
5-wht/blu
6-grn/wht
7-wht/brn
8-brn/wht

connector #2
1-wht/grn
2-grn/wht
3-wht/org
4-blu/wht
5-wht/blu
6-org/wht
7-brn/wht
8-wht/brn

I haven't got the HUB yet and I'd like to wire at least two systems together, would the above work to network two computers together? Or would I go about wiring the cable like this?

The USOC crossover cable

connector #1
1-wht/brn
2-wht/grn
3-wht/org
4-wht/blu
5-blu/wht
6-org/wht
7-grn/wht
8-brn/wht

connector #2

1-brn/wht
2-grn/wht
3-org/wht
4-blu/wht
5-wht/blu
6-wht/org
7-wht/grn
8-wht/brn

Which way would I want to go about making the crossover cable? EIA-B* or USOC? Or don't I have to make a crossover cable?Thanks for any input anybody may have.

[imd14u]

Originally posted by humiliation:
I just wanted to confirm that I could use this cable and do what I wanted with it.

Thank you very much for your fast answer Sowulo, much appreciated. Thanks

This would be to network, RIGHT?

[Humilliation]

Yes, I'd like to be able to network two computers together without using a HUB. Which of the two kinds of crossover cables I stated above would work with just two SMC 10/100 NICs?

[imd14u]

try this: http://www.gccprinters.com/support/doc/crossover.html

1 orange white
2 orange
3 white green
4 blue
5 white blue
6 green
7 white brown
8 brown

Don't forget the RJ-45 jacks, and the crimper.

[Jallentino]

You have to know how to set up the network also, I assume your using Windows at home, if you need any help let me know.

[Humilliation]

Thanks guys for all of your input.

B4uc1i81, thanks for the link, it gave me what I think I needed to know.

Jallentino, thanks, I'll keep you in mind if I run into any trouble.

I'll be networking W2K Pro to Win98, Win98 to WinMe and W2k to WinMe. I guess once I get the router I'll really get confused.

Again I must say many thanks to all that replied, got much needed information.

[Mr_Miyagi]

Originally posted by humiliation:
Thanks guys for all of your input.

B4uc1i81, thanks for the link, it gave me what I think I needed to know.

Jallentino, thanks, I'll keep you in mind if I run into any trouble.

I'll be networking W2K Pro to Win98, Win98 to WinMe and W2k to WinMe. I guess once I get the router I'll really get confused.

Again I must say many thanks to all that replied, got much needed information.

u will certainly have hours of fun with the w2k to w98 setting up... i did! boy what a bummer

[Humilliation]

Originally posted by Andy Wright:

u will certainly have hours of fun with the w2k to w98 setting up... i did! boy what a bummer

Yes, you're absolutely right!! Killed Win98 and installed W2K, now running a network between 2 W2K systems without any problems, so far. Knock on wood, (as in tree wood).