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  1. November 15th, 2002, 08:26 PM #1
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    Any last hopes?

    OK, I have a hard drive here a Quantum 10 gig.

    Problem is it works and I've installed Windows on it, though occasionally it likes to "Freeze" and clicks, etc. However next boot it works fine. I've tried it in multiple machines with multiple IDE cables.

    I've heard that a low level format often helps with stuff like this, anyone that can link me to a good low-level format utility, or can give me any ideas, I'd appreciate it. If not, what's 20 bucks for another one, used maybe.

    Drive is way out of warranty so RMA is not an option.
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  2. November 15th, 2002, 09:22 PM #2
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    Sounds like it is occasionally trying to access data on a bad sector, and the heads get stuck in a loop..you might try using something like spinrite..I've fixed a few drives with similar problems at least long enough to get data off, etc. spinrite is at www.grc.com
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  3. November 15th, 2002, 09:26 PM #3
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    Ruslan has mentioned many HDD util's that do LLF's as for the clicking, sounds like a heat or platter issue.

    There are a few topics darted about with the same issues (mainly Fujitsu's but I'll not get into that )

    read this post

    http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin...ard+drive+util
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  4. November 16th, 2002, 08:59 AM #4
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    I gurss I have never used anything other than what comes from the manufacturer. I agree with the trying to access a bad sector comment but I dont know if I would depend on that thing anymore.
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    Re: Any last hopes?

    All depends on what exactly the model of that Quantum.
    If it's Quantum CX or Quantum LCT series drive - it could be problem with electronics - overheating of TDA5247 chip to be exactly... Sometimes additional heatsink to this chip and/or fan can solve the problem, sometimes and LLF is also needed.
    There are a lot of specialized LLF utils written especially for repairing Quantums - do the search through my posts, and you'll find the links... or I can e-mail them to you...

    But as I have said, all depends on what exactly the model of the drive - another models can have another problems...
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  6. November 16th, 2002, 10:00 PM #6
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    Re: Re: Any last hopes?

    Originally posted by Ruslan
    All depends on what exactly the model of that Quantum.
    If it's Quantum CX or Quantum LCT series drive - it could be problem with electronics - overheating of TDA5247 chip to be exactly... Sometimes additional heatsink to this chip and/or fan can solve the problem, sometimes and LLF is also needed.
    There are a lot of specialized LLF utils written especially for repairing Quantums - do the search through my posts, and you'll find the links... or I can e-mail them to you...

    But as I have said, all depends on what exactly the model of the drive - another models can have another problems...
    Yep it's a Quantum CX model, and I see that chip right there. I just LLFed the drive with a program called Zero Disk-- so far it works but I need to use it over the long term, and I'll see what happens.

    Do you think sticking a fan right under the drive might help?
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  7. November 16th, 2002, 10:36 PM #7
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    Re: Re: Re: Any last hopes?

    Originally posted by JungleMan1
    Yep it's a Quantum CX model, and I see that chip right there. I just LLFed the drive with a program called Zero Disk-- so far it works but I need to use it over the long term, and I'll see what happens.

    Do you think sticking a fan right under the drive might help?
    It may well help, but for how long is the big question, if you need to use the drive over long term. I would invest in a fully working drive and use this one for "non-escential" work / files. And see how it goes from there, there's nothing worse than your drive dying before you get a chance to back it up.. trust me, I know.

    Keep the drive close to a good air supply, and monitor the temperature closely.

    I'm sure Ruslan will be able to give you more info than I can.

    Good Luck.
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  8. November 16th, 2002, 11:32 PM #8
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    Re: Re: Re: Any last hopes?

    Originally posted by JungleMan1
    Do you think sticking a fan right under the drive might help?
    Yep, it can help... But I wouldn't trust that drive anymore - CX drives (as well as LCT) are the most unreliable Quantum models... I think, that's the main reason why Quantum is not now calls Quantum anymore...

    Although it really can prolong drive's life, I would use that drive only for tests, as temporary drive, no more... I've seen too many dead CX drives just only because of damned Philips TD5247 chip... some of drives were having Panasonic chip instead of Philips,though - those drives were rock solid... it's just only problem with that Philips chip, what could lead even to HDD's heads crash...

    Test the drive with mentioned in my posts (in HDD and BIOS forums) MHDD utility - some of the features of that utility were especially designed for repairing Quantum CX drives...
    Good luck!
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  9. November 17th, 2002, 09:16 AM #9
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    I searched for MHDD on the forums but only found one link and it was dead. Could you link me to where I could DL that? Thanks

    Yeah, I won't be storing any critical data on this drive...
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  10. November 17th, 2002, 09:34 AM #10
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    Originally posted by JungleMan1
    I searched for MHDD on the forums but only found one link and it was dead. Could you link me to where I could DL that?
    http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin...highlight=MHDD

    By the way, newer version is also available:

    http://www.maysoft.com.ua/files/mhdd/mhdd281.zip

    Read my posts in the thread above how to use it...
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