Quote Originally Posted by Cleetus
Why the change?

I just reread the 2003 State of the Union, multiple paragraphs on WMD, on other weapons, several of those statements have been proven as out right lies leading to the fall of others, yet for some reason not Bush

Only 2 paragraphs on the horrors Sadam unleashed on his people.

Then weeks later Powell went in front of the UN, nothing but WMDs, not the horrors of the Saddam regime. We were battleing terrorism.

Months later, we easily win the war. My friends started returning talking about how most were happy, some were not, how they will never forget the smell of multiple burning bodies nor the sight of them being run over by tank after tank. Then the whole lie and bs of the Jessica Lynch story, don't think I have to repeat how the wool was pulled over our eyes on that one.

Saddam is still unaccounted for, Osama is still unaccounted for, the WMD's are still unaccounted for, N. Korea continues to build nuclear programs and are infinitly worse to their people, Africa is full of strife, and surprise terrorism is still happening.

And I won't even go into the Patriot Act.

Bush has shown himself to be infinetly worse then Clinton. He went in front of the nation and lied, bold face lied to us, there have been no proofs, billions have been spent, lives have been lost. We aren't talking about the definition of is, or oral sex, but lives, real lives.

Destroying American credit and attacks on nations are not things that I hold dear abot my country.

You give me proof that we are in danger, than I want them dead, like I showed in my posts on this board. But, after all this time, those proofs are torn down, then I can easily show how that is the wrong blood lust to have.

Listen to talk radio, listen to those that still support, listen to Fox, no body mentions the WMD's, now we are made to feel that the entire war was to help the people of Iraq and kill a dictator. No, these were not my reasons.

They proved that they were no threat, not one chemical weapon was used, nothing has been found.

I am ashamed that Bush came from Texas.


Them’s some good reasons I guess. I am no longer enamored with and will vote against Bush and the republicans for multiple other reasons but not the war effort.

Exaggeration of the truth is in effect a lie but the fact does remain that Sadam did have chemical weapons and had used them several times. It was known that he had chemical weapons and had produced more and could continue to produce more, had stated that he would use them on any army that invaded and everything did point to him having them. When they invaded they found terrorist training camps, one being the fuselage of a jetliner where they taught the terrorists how to capture aircraft with knives and the like (i.e. put 2+2 together and you know where the 9-11 hijackers trained).

As for the location of the chemical weapons, well, it's the UN that made us all wait to go despite weapons inspectors being kicked out of the country for years. I think that was Clinton in charge those years.

This thread is so damn sad because hindsight is 20/20 and we still can't agree on what reality is or how events should have occured. I guess the one thing we know for sure is that this sort of thing never truly works out exactily as one would like no matter your viewpoint.