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September 26th, 2003, 01:02 PM
#16
Geezer
 Originally Posted by Damned Angel
I don'k know about you, but I have lots of business clients with custom software that will only run on win 98. As you know, you can no longer obtain 98 OEM with new systems. So, by purchasing xp pro OEM with a new system, they can then install 98 on the machine so that they don't have to worry about not being able to use their old software.
Can't you still get 98 OEM ? ... you still can where I am ! So I'm even more confus-ed than usual ! ... but for now I shan't be doing any of that ! Especially since xp pro costs 1.5x as much
But err have you never heard of 2nd hand ? I dunno if I've completed shall we say 'the formalties' as far as licensing transfer goes - but I'm often able to procure 'old' copies for clients from new rollouts as/when they want them ...
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September 26th, 2003, 02:47 PM
#17
Banned
 Originally Posted by confus-ed
Can't you still get 98 OEM ? ... you still can where I am ! So I'm even more confus-ed than usual ! ... but for now I shan't be doing any of that ! Especially since xp pro costs 1.5x as much
But err have you never heard of 2nd hand ? I dunno if I've completed shall we say 'the formalties' as far as licensing transfer goes - but I'm often able to procure 'old' copies for clients from new rollouts as/when they want them ...
Let it go old man...
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September 26th, 2003, 03:30 PM
#18
Registered User
 Originally Posted by confus-ed
Can't you still get 98 OEM ? ... you still can where I am ! So I'm even more confus-ed than usual ! ... but for now I shan't be doing any of that ! Especially since xp pro costs 1.5x as much
But err have you never heard of 2nd hand ? I dunno if I've completed shall we say 'the formalties' as far as licensing transfer goes - but I'm often able to procure 'old' copies for clients from new rollouts as/when they want them ...
You can still buy a new machine with 98 OEM on it? I don't mean a brand new pII 350 with 98 on it from the local chop shop, I mean a brand new P4 or AMD xp system with 98 OEM.
I have not seen anyone selling these anymore.
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September 27th, 2003, 04:19 AM
#19
Geezer
 Originally Posted by Damned Angel
You can still buy a new machine with 98 OEM on it? I don't mean a brand new pII 350 with 98 on it from the local chop shop, I mean a brand new P4 or AMD xp system with 98 OEM.
I have not seen anyone selling these anymore.
Ahh so you mean pre-installed (I'll casually ignore Ya_knows advice to 'let it go' ) ... errr I'd suggest that'd be a marketing thingee !!!
Manufacturers of the 'latest & greatest' machines, wouldn't want to be making a retrograde step in the eyes of the consumer do they ??? Why put what Uncle BIll seems to have convinced most of us, is 'inferior' on shinny new boxes ? (Not me though - horses for courses !)
But your information is handy - TA ! .... that means I can now happily send out machines dual booting & know I'm inside licensing agreements - because I too have many a customer with apps that only 'run properly' in a true DOS environment - so I can have both operating systems installed & covered 'legally' because I can of course only 'use' one at a time !
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September 27th, 2003, 08:04 AM
#20
Banned
 Originally Posted by confus-ed
that means I can now happily send out machines dual booting & know I'm inside licensing agreements - because I too have many a customer with apps that only 'run properly' in a true DOS environment - so I can have both operating systems installed & covered 'legally' because I can of course only 'use' one at a time !
I think dual booting is defeated by the downgrade rights. If I am not mistaken you would require both licenses...although I could be wrong.
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September 27th, 2003, 05:24 PM
#21
Geezer
 Originally Posted by Ya_know
I think dual booting is defeated by the downgrade rights. If I am not mistaken you would require both licenses...although I could be wrong. 
Ahhh build me up ... then knock me down - why don't you !
We did the 'do you require two licenses to dual boot' saga before - trots off to check ... & much as it hurts ... you are right.
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September 29th, 2003, 07:15 AM
#22
Banned
 Originally Posted by confus-ed
Ahhh build me up ... then knock me down - why don't you !
We did the 'do you require two licenses to dual boot' saga before - trots off to check ... & much as it hurts ... you are right.
I feel dizzy, the world is spinning...someone stop the ride so I can get off.
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October 7th, 2003, 01:02 PM
#23
Registered User
 Originally Posted by confus-ed
Can't you still get 98 OEM ? ... you still can where I am ! So I'm even more confus-ed than usual ! ... but for now I shan't be doing any of that ! Especially since xp pro costs 1.5x as much
But err have you never heard of 2nd hand ? I dunno if I've completed shall we say 'the formalties' as far as licensing transfer goes - but I'm often able to procure 'old' copies for clients from new rollouts as/when they want them ...
http://www.1a-computer-software-disc...ting%20Systems
bottom of the page, you can get just an OEM license or the full OEM
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October 11th, 2003, 04:08 PM
#24
Registered User
At the risk of removing all doubt about my mental incompetence, I am compelled to revive this thread of two rabbit trails. The second one is the painting. Well, maybe it's the only "rabbit trail". I've looked really hard, I found nine faces, I think (but the answer link failed to work). But what really confounds me is.... where is the blinkin' pig????? I see a sleeping dog with a face on it's tail (I think). But, I see no pig, well endowed or otherwise. When you say pig, bacon and ham come to mind. What I see reminds me of fetch, stay, and wet noses. Did I miss something or is this a British thing?
Last edited by dfritz; October 11th, 2003 at 04:29 PM.
What evil lurks in the hearts of computers? Only The Noo Noo knows!!!
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October 12th, 2003, 04:30 AM
#25
Geezer
Last edited by confus-ed; October 12th, 2003 at 04:35 AM.
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