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January 22nd, 2004, 05:37 PM
#1
Registered User
AVG vs Panda
Hey Gang,
I ran an online virusscan with Panda last night. It uncovered 6 trojans that AVG paid version didn't find.
Question: Does this mean that Panda is better than AVG or does it mean that my installation of AVG was corrupted by the recent virus attack it suffered last week.
I thought my AVG installation was repaired. I make sure it is updated every day but I didn't reinstall it after the attack .
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January 22nd, 2004, 10:02 PM
#2
Registered User
Aren't "trojans" a fuzzy area for some AV companies? Not strictly a virus, and yet ...
Cheers,
The Computer Valet
Mike Whalen
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January 23rd, 2004, 06:55 AM
#3
Intel Mod
Yes, an anti-virus package may or may not concern itself much with trojans, likewise spyware and other types of malware. An antivirus can be expected to concentrate its energy on self-replicating code that will actively spread infection, trojan detection could be regarded as a "bonus".
In the same way that it's wise to scan for spyware, dedicated trojan checking is a better option than relying on an anti-virus.
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January 23rd, 2004, 07:15 AM
#4
Geezer
Originally Posted by The Computer Valet
Aren't "trojans" a fuzzy area for some AV companies? Not strictly a virus, and yet ...
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'Malware' is viruses, worms & trojans ...
3 things, 3 bits of s/w that do those well or 1 bit that does all 'fair' ? ... mmmm ! but its better than 1 bit doing 3 jobs & probably not 2 of them at all !
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January 23rd, 2004, 08:11 AM
#5
Registered User
The moral of the story: switch to NAV!
Protected by Glock. Don't mess with me!
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January 23rd, 2004, 08:17 AM
#6
Geezer
Originally Posted by CeeBee
The moral of the story: switch to NAV!
I think that's one bit ... 'going fair' & some might say that's 'nice'!
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January 23rd, 2004, 10:39 AM
#7
Registered User
They all suck. ALL OF EM!!!
Even my precious F-Secure is dropping the ball. If you install Fsecure and certain Firewalls like Sygate or Zone Alarm, Fsecure sometimes blows up the system. WTF!
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January 23rd, 2004, 10:48 AM
#8
Registered User
Originally Posted by meatwad
They all suck. ALL OF EM!!!
NAV 8 Corporate rocks! You can't say it sux until you see how it works. Our company has had NAV for years, yet no infection at all. However the home version is another story...
Protected by Glock. Don't mess with me!
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January 23rd, 2004, 01:59 PM
#9
Registered User
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January 23rd, 2004, 03:04 PM
#10
Registered User
Originally Posted by hudsonsmith
Thanks Hud,
That's an eye-opener...
Result summary: 3 passes / 19 fails
BTW, what does VB say IS the best AV?
Last edited by Orangeman; January 23rd, 2004 at 03:10 PM.
Bouncy Bouncy
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January 23rd, 2004, 03:44 PM
#11
Geezer
Originally Posted by Orangeman
Result summary: 3 passes / 19 fails
For the free version of avg !! (6! Orange if you pay you have 7 !) this goes back to 98 ! ... historically they were terrible, but figured it out this year -for free its pretty damn good.
Who the bloomin 'eck are these virus testing guys -some magazine ?
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January 23rd, 2004, 04:36 PM
#12
Registered User
Originally Posted by Orangeman
Thanks Hud,
That's an eye-opener...
Result summary: 3 passes / 19 fails
BTW, what does VB say IS the best AV?
Hard to say, as they grade everything pass/fail. Plus, false positives also fail a product, and they don't differentiate between those and failure to detect. As -ed rightly notes, some of the fails go back a ways. Even so, some of the products seem to have more consistent records. If you look here http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/index.xml you can look up the results by date or by vendor.
You can also look here http://www.icsalabs.com/html/communi...us/index.shtml and here http://www.av-test.org/
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January 23rd, 2004, 04:56 PM
#13
Banned
Originally Posted by confus-ed
For the free version of avg !! (6! Orange if you pay you have 7 !) this goes back to 98 ! ... historically they were terrible, but figured it out this year -for free its pretty damn good.
Who the bloomin 'eck are these virus testing guys -some magazine ?
But in this case -ed, Punkinhead was the tester. He had AVG Pro on his system all up do date when he was taken down by alll those virus'es. I think three altogether. Orange, go get the link to the thread and show him....ah I guess I will....
EDIT
Yeah, here it is, just as an FYI to the forum:
http://forums.windrivers.com/showthread.php?t=54871
Last edited by TripleRLtd; January 23rd, 2004 at 04:58 PM.
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January 24th, 2004, 03:31 AM
#14
Geezer
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January 24th, 2004, 03:38 AM
#15
Registered User
Originally Posted by TripleRLtd
But in this case -ed, Punkinhead was the tester. He had AVG Pro on his system all up do date when he was taken down by alll those virus'es. I think three altogether. Orange, go get the link to the thread and show him....ah I guess I will....
EDIT
Yeah, here it is, just as an FYI to the forum:
http://forums.windrivers.com/showthread.php?t=54871
Yep,
That was the original post that was the beginning of my problem. If I had sense enough to figure it out I would have suspected something immediatley. Any time there is a sudden growth in a single file that isn't supposed to grow, maybe its a virus.
Heuristic scan should have gotten it but it didn't.
Anyway, I am still in the dark as to the best. I've heard AVG, then Panda, Now Sophos. I guess its not a question of finding out which one it is an buying it.
It kind of take me back to an earlier post about a lady who went 5 years without a virus. Somebody mentioned the best protection against viruses is intelligence - like staying away from file sharing sites.
Anyway, that's another forum....and I've learned my lesson...
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