201 people might still be alive today in Spain...

[techs]

If Bush the Moron had went after Al-Qaeda instead of Saddam Hussein.

[pmetal]

How about, if Clinton and the rest of the panty-wastes didn't appease these people for years and years!!!

[firemonkey]

If Bush the Moron had went after Al-Qaeda instead of Saddam Hussein.

Err--- Why do you think we are in Afganistan? Who do you think has been funding Al-Qaeda?

[Cleetus]

Maybe that dude Osama that is still out there????

[Spork]

If Bush the Moron had went after Al-Qaeda instead of Saddam Hussein.

We aren't not responsible for preventing every single act of terrorism.

[Cleetus]

But I thought we were at war against terrorism?

[paraflyer]

If Bush the Moron had went after Al-Qaeda instead of Saddam Hussein.

Hmmmm. Lemme guess, and you'd be one of the first to complain about the US being "the world's police force"????

If nothing else, this only proves that the US is not the only target, and that the targeting in Spain may have been politically motivated. Think of it, with one well-timed bombing, the Spanish government underwent a huge upheaval. And, given their history, they may have had it coming.....

"Spain's intervention had "war of civilizations" written all over it. Many Spanish troops serving in Iraq, for example, wore an arm patch depicting the Cross of St. James of Compostela. That insignia commemorates the Battle of Clavijo in 844. According to legend, the Apostle St. James the Elder came down from the sky and killed every Moor - as Muslims were then called - in his path. Ever since, St. James has been called "Santiago Matamoros," St. James the Moor Killer.

In July, the Madrid newspaper El Mundo warned: "To put the Cross of St. James of Compostela on the uniforms of Spanish soldiers demonstrates an absolute ignorance of the psychology of the society in which they will have to carry out their mission.""...James Pinkerton, Newsday.com

Islam carries with it a LOOOOONG memory of those that attempted to repress it.

And:

"My First Concern: Fundamental Islamic Jihadists are determined to destroy Western secular society ... a society they see as evil. They will kill innocent people to accomplish their goals. They killed 200 innocent people in Spain last week, and toppled the Spanish government. They have made it clear that they intend to attack America again .. and to kill as many of us as possible. What if they manage to smuggle a chemical, biological or, God forbid, nuclear weapon into our country? Can you imagine watching the TV with your parents one evening and seeing reports of 40,000 people dead in one of our major American cities from a terrorist attack using these horrible weapons?

My second concern? I think America is in trouble, because Americans have lost their love of freedom. Americans no longer want to be truly free. They want government to be their provider as well as their protector. They don't want to take the responsibility for their own employment, their own retirement and their own health care. They don't want to be responsible for the education of their own children ... preferring, instead, to hand their children over to the government to be educated. They don't even want to be responsible for what they watch on TV or listen to on the radio." ..Neal Boortz, today's Nuze

This is in line with what I think will happen in Spain shortly as well..and considering the heavy Socialist bent of the new administration, it's more than and idle thought.

[ilovetheusers]

I'm not 100% on this but the last article I read stated that they were only looking at Al-Queda as the culprit because the asques denied the attrack. that and the evidence to point to Al-Queda was a muslim video tape found on scene? Did anything more come out of this to point to them? Just wondering.

[amyb]

If Bush the Moron had went after Al-Qaeda instead of Saddam Hussein.

It wasn't Bush's fault. He didn't let Bin Laden sit fat and happy in Afghanistan for 8 years..

[geoscomp]

It wasn't Bush's fault. He didn't let Bin Laden sit fat and happy in Afghanistan for 8 years..

That's true..and he wasn't the one that recruited and trained Bin Laden either..that was Reagan.

from http://msnbc.com/news/190144.asp?cp1=1

"Though he has come to represent all that went wrong with the CIA’s reckless strategy there, by the end of the Afghan war in 1989, bin Laden was still viewed by the agency as something of a dilettante - a rich Saudi boy gone to war and welcomed home by the Saudi monarchy he so hated as something of a hero.
In fact, while he returned to his family’s construction business, bin Laden had split from the relatively conventional MAK in 1988 and established a new group, al-Qaida, that included many of the more extreme MAK members he had met in Afghanistan.

Most of these Afghan vets, or Afghanis, as the Arabs who fought there became known, turned up later behind violent Islamic movements around the world. Among them: the GIA in Algeria, thought responsible for the massacres of tens of thousands of civilians; Egypt’s Gamat Ismalia, which has massacred western tourists repeatedly in recent years; Saudi Arabia Shiite militants, responsible for the Khobar Towers and Riyadh bombings of 1996.
Indeed, to this day, those involved in the decision to give the Afghan rebels access to a fortune in covert funding and top-level combat weaponry continue to defend that move in the context of the Cold War. Sen. Orrin Hatch, a senior Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee making those decisions, told my colleague Robert Windrem that he would make the same call again today even knowing what bin Laden would do subsequently. “It was worth it,” he said."

[Orangeman]

From what I know of the situation the Government went against the will of the people in the first place. 90% were against involvement with the coalition.

My question now is, what are the Spanish going to do when they wake up the next morning and realize the Socialists are in power. Higher taxes, more government spending ....

Its kind of like cutting off your nose to spite your face....

IMHO, no good has ever come of Socialism. Remember Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Hitler (National Socialism), not to mention Castro, and all the rest....

[Escape_Driver]

Hold the phone your blaiming Bush for the bombs... Did he put the bombs there NO... Islam is not evil... People who are f u cked in the head are... They would find another reason to kill, maybe some where else but they would still kill people to try and get there sick and twisted ideas of how the world should work..

[ilovetheusers]

That's true..and he wasn't the one that recruited and trained Bin Laden either..that was Reagan.

from http://msnbc.com/news/190144.asp?cp1=1

"Though he has come to represent all that went wrong with the CIA’s reckless strategy there, by the end of the Afghan war in 1989, bin Laden was still viewed by the agency as something of a dilettante - a rich Saudi boy gone to war and welcomed home by the Saudi monarchy he so hated as something of a hero.
In fact, while he returned to his family’s construction business, bin Laden had split from the relatively conventional MAK in 1988 and established a new group, al-Qaida, that included many of the more extreme MAK members he had met in Afghanistan.

Most of these Afghan vets, or Afghanis, as the Arabs who fought there became known, turned up later behind violent Islamic movements around the world. Among them: the GIA in Algeria, thought responsible for the massacres of tens of thousands of civilians; Egypt’s Gamat Ismalia, which has massacred western tourists repeatedly in recent years; Saudi Arabia Shiite militants, responsible for the Khobar Towers and Riyadh bombings of 1996.
Indeed, to this day, those involved in the decision to give the Afghan rebels access to a fortune in covert funding and top-level combat weaponry continue to defend that move in the context of the Cold War. Sen. Orrin Hatch, a senior Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee making those decisions, told my colleague Robert Windrem that he would make the same call again today even knowing what bin Laden would do subsequently. “It was worth it,” he said."

Polocies such as this that caused the soviets to spend huge sums of money on their military, causing the collapse of their economy and this is what won the cold war. I'm not so sure that these guys knew that fighting wasn't an option and winning the economic war was the key to victory but either way it worked out to our advantage.

I'm not defending how we went about it, it was the wrong thing to do (morraly) and now we are paying the price. The alternative of the soviet union still being around a a super power or them comming out on top is a pretty bad one and that's my defense of republican world policy for today.

[Jediab]

I think now people need to STFU and quit pointing fingers at who ever the hell may have or may have not done this that or the other thing and realize that terrorism is a GLOBAL problem. It has to be dealt with by everyone who wants to have freedom from fear, death, and oppression by those who want you dead "just because".

[inferno_gn]

Hi there,

There is no such 100% freedom. When there is anything religious beliefs in place (as you can see, some do take it to the next level), it's very hard to archive freedom until we surpass what blinds us and we can all get along with each other (if that make sense to any of you).

I might be against the war of Iraq, I find it that the US is slapping everyone with their version of freedom, as if it's the one and only one.

Ju Leon...