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April 13th, 2004, 09:05 AM
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Retail sales show surprising strength
http://money.cnn.com/2004/04/13/news...ales/index.htm
Certainly the improvement in the labor market has helped and consumers are much more free with their spending."
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April 13th, 2004, 08:15 PM
#2
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By an almost 2-1 margin Americans prefer a balance budget over tax cuts according to new Associated Press poll.
Read it here
Americans are no longer deceived by phony tax cuts.
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April 13th, 2004, 11:24 PM
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 Originally Posted by techs
By an almost 2-1 margin Americans prefer a balance budget over tax cuts according to new Associated Press poll.
Read it here
Americans are no longer deceived by phony tax cuts.
Phony tax cuts?!? They are real. Everybody got a tax cut...even you. But Kerry wants to take it away...hmmmm, bummer.
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April 14th, 2004, 07:19 AM
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 Originally Posted by JaxSon
Phony tax cuts?!? They are real. Everybody got a tax cut...even you. But Kerry wants to take it away...hmmmm, bummer.
My accountant told me I got 17.00 more back from the irs this year. But my other taxes increased by 434.00.
And I guess I have to say it over and over and over for the truly misinformed:
It is not a tax cut. It is a LOAN. Since the entire reduction in taxes was paid for by money borrowed by the federal government and since loans have to be repaid you and I will have to pay back the loan with interest.
Thankfully people are much smarter than you, JaxSon. They know that they had the wool pulled over their eyes.
btw George W. bankrupted two companies he ran. And now one Government.
CEO's get fired for that. And so will Georgie
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April 14th, 2004, 07:26 AM
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 Originally Posted by techs
By an almost 2-1 margin Americans prefer a balance budget over tax cuts according to new Associated Press poll.
Read it here
Americans are no longer deceived by phony tax cuts.
No one asked me what I wanted for this poll. I would like both...a balanced budget, to pay less taxes, oh, and I want the deficit handled... 
Neither candidate can promise that!
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April 14th, 2004, 08:44 AM
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Tax cut? I got a $300 check almost 2 years ago, and that really didn't impact my life. It paid 3/4 of my car payment for that month. Whoopie-do...
My general taxes have stayed the same or gone up in some instances. I agree, it is more of a loan. The tax cut just managed to send the defecit soaring even faster and some day we will need to pay that badboy back down again, and it ain't going to be pennies from heaven.
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April 14th, 2004, 09:07 AM
#7
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 Originally Posted by techs
Thankfully people are much smarter than you, JaxSon. They know that they had the wool pulled over their eyes.
There you go, getting personal again. Isn't that what your mama told you not to do? NooNoo will get on you again.
And getting back to whether it is/was a real tax cut, how much would you have paid if you didn't get that "cut"? Could it be more? You betcha.
The $300 check (I actually got $600) is a result of making the child credit retroactive to the first of the year. Another nice bonus. Has anybody else ever done such a thing? Of course, if you don't pay any taxes to start with, then you didn't get the check.
All of this info is easy to chase down if you had a mind...to.
And again, this post was to discuss some good news coming down the pike...but you and your same ol' glood & doom tries like heck to find some bad news in the midst of it all.
"YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAGH!!!" --Howard Dean, Chief of the Democratic Party
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April 14th, 2004, 09:18 AM
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 Originally Posted by JaxSon
There you go, getting personal again. Isn't that what your mama told you not to do? NooNoo will get on you again.
And getting back to whether it is/was a real tax cut, how much would you have paid if you didn't get that "cut"? Could it be more? You betcha.
The $300 check (I actually got $600) is a result of making the child credit retroactive to the first of the year. Another nice bonus. Has anybody else ever done such a thing? Of course, if you don't pay any taxes to start with, then you didn't get the check.
All of this info is easy to chase down if you had a mind...to.
And again, this post was to discuss some good news coming down the pike...but you and your same ol' glood & doom tries like heck to find some bad news in the midst of it all.
Sorry about getting personal.
I think you proved my point, though. Continuing to insist it is a tax cut when it will have to be paid back is like claiming your income went up because you purchased things on your credit card.
Has any other President had tax cuts? Well actually since the budget was in deficit for so many years there was no tax "cuts" until Clinton gave us a surplus. However, many presidents have enacted tax loans. None has ever enacted such huge loans as Bush. And none had done it in such a way as get you a separate check with a note saying it came from him, like Bush did.
And once again, as many have agreed with here, we all pay taxes even if we don't pay income tax. Those people not only got NOTHING, but they had the taxes that they do pay INCREASED by Bush. (Federal fees for using public parks, telephone surcharges, etc).
And due to the presidents cuts in critical services states and localities have raised things like the sales tax, property tax, etc.
What kind of true growth is it when the government borrows 350 BILLION a year to loan to people? False growth. Designed to fool the unwary.
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April 14th, 2004, 09:32 AM
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There you go again Techs, talking about the Clinton smoke and mirrors surplus. When are you going to concede that it isn't true?
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