Prayer in Scnool

**Cleetus** · August 4th, 2004, 09:44 AM

I think it has no place as a school sponsered activity. You are there for learning, pray on your own time.

**edball** · August 4th, 2004, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by Cleetus

I think it has no place as a school sponsered activity. You are there for learning, pray on your own time.

I'm with you.

**Ya_know** · August 4th, 2004, 09:48 AM

I'm not ready to vote. Someone start a debate for the pro's vs. the con's so I can formulate a desision here...cause "don't_know" don't cut it...Yo!

**Ya_know** · August 4th, 2004, 09:49 AM

One other thing, jsut waht si Scnool???

**jitBob** · August 4th, 2004, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by Ya_know

I'm not ready to vote. Someone start a debate for the pro's vs. the con's so I can formulate a desision here...cause "don't_know" don't cut it...Yo!

Pro: Keeps the weenies all in one place.
Con: Keeps the weenies all in one place.

There, now I got you started.

**Cleetus** · August 4th, 2004, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by Ya_know

I'm not ready to vote. Someone start a debate for the pro's vs. the con's so I can formulate a desision here...cause "don't_know" don't cut it...Yo!

It is really simple, do you believe that prayer should be an alloted time in our public schools? And why?

**Vergence** · August 4th, 2004, 10:21 AM

I voted yes because I think prayer should be 'allowed' in school, but not a teacher-sponsored event (like the pledge). I'm sick and tired of people saying they want state and religion separate when what they really mean is that they want religion to only happen in Church and government gets free run of the rest of society. Religion influences politics, plain and simple. If a kid wants to pray he is allowed to do so, ANYWHERE. A teacher on the other hand should not run an organized prayer because he/she is not to 'endorse' a specific religion. BTW I don't consider the Pledge an 'organized prayer.'

**jitBob** · August 4th, 2004, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by Cleetus

It is really simple, do you believe that prayer should be an alloted time in our public schools? And why?

No. Religion has no place in public (tax payer paid) schools. We as a nation should remain dedicated to the principal of separation of church and state.

**jitBob** · August 4th, 2004, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Vergence

I voted yes because I think prayer should be 'allowed' in school, but not a teacher-sponsored event (like the pledge). I'm sick and tired of people saying they want state and religion separate when what they really mean is that they want religion to only happen in Church and government gets free run of the rest of society. Religion influences politics, plain and simple. If a kid wants to pray he is allowed to do so, ANYWHERE. A teacher on the other hand should not run an organized prayer because he/she is not to 'endorse' a specific religion. BTW I don't consider the Pledge an 'organized prayer.'

Religion is how you worship your God, kneeling, bowing your head, wearing special clothes or your hair a special way. It is not the same as believing in a God. You can pray to God anywhere, wheither aloud or silently.

**Major Kong** · August 4th, 2004, 10:57 AM

I'm agin' it and I'll tell ya know why...let's just say jitbob nailed it perfectly in both his post.

**TripleRLtd** · August 4th, 2004, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by Cleetus

It is really simple, do you believe that prayer should be an alloted time in our public schools? And why?

Putting it that way, I have to say no. But, with the caveat that is is alright if students choose to do so on their own. Even so far as having "Christian" groups allowed to use facilities as after school events.

**edball** · August 4th, 2004, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by TripleRLtd

Putting it that way, I have to say no. But, with the caveat that is is alright if students choose to do so on their own. Even so far as having "Christian" groups allowed to use facilities as after school events.

And Buhdhist, Hindu, Jewish, Zeus, and Sun worshippers, etc,etc.

**techs** · August 4th, 2004, 12:40 PM

God no.

**techs** · August 4th, 2004, 12:41 PM

And by the way should this have been a public poll?

**Ya_know** · August 4th, 2004, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by Cleetus

I think it has no place as a school sponsered activity. You are there for learning, pray on your own time.

I am going to go against the grain here on this one...for the simple reason being that you weren't specific enough on the time allotted, and what sort of method was used to determine what should be restricted/allowed when referring to religious activity.

I don't think students should be lead in prayer like the pledge by the staff of the school. I do however think that children should be allotted a moment to offer a silent prayer perhaps, or crack open a bible or whatever, without being persecuted by the students, the staff, and the school boards of various states, even so much as suspending kids for praying. Also, if a group wants to organize for say a brief bible study at lunch or recess, or even after school on school grounds, it shouldn’t be prohibited, but perhaps controlled to ensure that the ideas aren’t overstepping any boundaries, and that no other rules are being broken. But to ban religious activity entirely is not such a good thing.

Just the same that it is our right to separate church from state, it is also our right to embrace one while attending the other, or not at all if that's our individual choice.