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September 26th, 2004, 08:54 AM
#1
First time XP user...Few questions
Hi,
I got a new comp today and am using XP for first time, few questions
1 - I have MSN and Mirc installed, but no-where in the 'add/remove progs' section are they listed, how would I uninstall them?
2 - On the add/remove progs there are things called 'windows xp hotfix', about 10 of them with different numbers after them, Also their is a 'windows SR2.0' and 'WMP hotfix'... am not sure whether to get rid of them?
3 - It keeps telling me I need to install the service pack 2, but it also says 'back up your system'...Is it risky to install it then? Or should I just do it?
4 - It keeps showing the .dll files in program files folders... I have it set not to show hidden or system files but it still shows these, how do I turn these off?
4 - I try and rename some folders in program files but each time it says it can't do it cause another program is using the file etc etc...But I know it isn't, why is this?
5 - I keep on trying to delete moviemaker from a folder but it keeps on rturning to the folder when I close it, any idea why?
Thanks for help
Last edited by houllier*; September 26th, 2004 at 09:05 AM.
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September 26th, 2004, 09:31 AM
#2
Registered User
 Originally Posted by houllier*
Hi,
I got a new comp today and am using XP for first time, few questions
1 - I have MSN and Mirc installed, but no-where in the 'add/remove progs' section are they listed, how would I uninstall them?
2 - On the add/remove progs there are things called 'windows xp hotfix', about 10 of them with different numbers after them, Also their is a 'windows SR2.0' and 'WMP hotfix'... am not sure whether to get rid of them?
3 - It keeps telling me I need to install the service pack 2, but it also says 'back up your system'...Is it risky to install it then? Or should I just do it?
4 - It keeps showing the .dll files in program files folders... I have it set not to show hidden or system files but it still shows these, how do I turn these off?
4 - I try and rename some folders in program files but each time it says it can't do it cause another program is using the file etc etc...But I know it isn't, why is this?
5 - I keep on trying to delete moviemaker from a folder but it keeps on rturning to the folder when I close it, any idea why?
Thanks for help
1. Log in as Administrator and check the Add/Remove list again. If they still don't show up there, it's possible the uninstall file is in the same directory as the .exe for the program. If you can't uninstall it, you can just delete the directory the programs are in.
2+3 You only have 10? Hahahaha, better get to windows update and get the rest of them including SP2. When it gives you the option of backing up, choose yes. That way if it hoses your system you should be able to uninstall SP2.
4 That's normal, or at least my system is the same way.
4-2 Computers don't lie. Some other program is using the folder/file you are trying to rename. What exactly are you trying to rename?
5 Hmmmmm...I have MovieMaker listed under E:\documentsandsettings\All Users\Program files.
If you are deleting it from your particular username but it is still listed under your ALL USERS directory I think it recreates it at every login. Try deleting it from the All Users folder and it should be gone for good.
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September 26th, 2004, 09:36 AM
#3
 Originally Posted by imaeditedbysowulo
1. Log in as Administrator and check the Add/Remove list again. If they still don't show up there, it's possible the uninstall file is in the same directory as the .exe for the program. If you can't uninstall it, you can just delete the directory the programs are in.
2+3 You only have 10? Hahahaha, better get to windows update and get the rest of them including SP2. When it gives you the option of backing up, choose yes. That way if it hoses your system you should be able to uninstall SP2.
4 That's normal, or at least my system is the same way.
4-2 Computers don't lie. Some other program is using the folder/file you are trying to rename. What exactly are you trying to rename?
5 Hmmmmm...I have MovieMaker listed under E:\documentsandsettings\All Users\Program files.
If you are deleting it from your particular username but it is still listed under your ALL USERS directory I think it recreates it at every login. Try deleting it from the All Users folder and it should be gone for good.
1 - Done all that, don't see a uninstaller anywhere...I wanna uninstall MSN but I can't see how.
2 - I'll get the update then although I have been told I maybe don't need it and it sometimes messes things up?
5 - I am just tyring to rename a folder, thats all, like I wanna rename the mirc folder but Mirc isn't even on and it won't let me.
Whats this all users thing??
Also, their is 5gb of space being taken up, but my c drive is only 2.5gb space being used, where is the other lot being used??
Last edited by houllier*; September 26th, 2004 at 10:09 AM.
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September 26th, 2004, 10:02 AM
#4
I just rebooted and it still won't let me delete certain folders like the msn gaming zone folder and I know nothing in there is being used.
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September 26th, 2004, 10:16 AM
#5
Registered User
 Originally Posted by houllier*
Whats this all users thing??
Also, their is 5gb of space being taken up, but my c drive is only 2.5gb space being used, where is the other lot being used??
All users folder overides all the other user folders. Meaning if a program is in the all users folder, every time a user logs on everything from the all users folder is copied into the folder of the person logging on. So you must delete it from All users before you delete it from your own folder.
Here's a pic of my directory tree, yours might be on a different drive letter but essentially it should look about the same.
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September 26th, 2004, 10:17 AM
#6
Registered User
 Originally Posted by houllier*
I just rebooted and it still won't let me delete certain folders like the msn gaming zone folder and I know nothing in there is being used.
Is it saying the folder is in use and can't be modifiied or is it giving a different error?
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September 26th, 2004, 10:32 AM
#7
Thanks for your help so far
Where can I find the 'all users' thing? Sorry I can't see it.
Still can't uninstall MSN for some reason, and one last thing
I wanna put the volume control in task bar, but when I click that option it says it can't do it cause colume control program hasn't been installed, how do I do that?
Thanks
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September 26th, 2004, 10:39 AM
#8
Registered User
 Originally Posted by houllier*
Thanks for your help so far
Where can I find the 'all users' thing? Sorry I can't see it.
Still can't uninstall MSN for some reason, and one last thing
I wanna put the volume control in task bar, but when I click that option it says it can't do it cause colume control program hasn't been installed, how do I do that?
Thanks
The all users folder depends on where XP was installed, but typically on your main hard drive there will be a folder named "Documents and Settings". In that folder will be your Administrator, All Users, and any individual users you have setup. Go into the All Users folder and click on Program Files and delete the stuff from in there.
For uninstalling MSN, try
this link Not sure if that's the same MSN you are referrring to...
Is audio working on your computer? Usually that message means either you don't have a sound card or the drivers are correct. Can you play mp3's or wav files?
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September 26th, 2004, 11:00 AM
#9
Ok, found the all users folder, everything in both folders are set right, everything thats in them is in the program files etc?
The volume control was there earlier, but rebooted then it went, the sound is working, can play wavs ok.
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September 26th, 2004, 11:16 AM
#10
Registered User
 Originally Posted by houllier*
Ok, found the all users folder, everything in both folders are set right, everything thats in them is in the program files etc?
If there's a program in there that you want out of your individual user program list, you must delete it from both of these locations. If it isn't in the all users list you should be able to just delete it from your user folder.
 Originally Posted by houllier*
The volume control was there earlier, but rebooted then it went, the sound is working, can play wavs ok.
If your sound is working properly, go into Control Panel and click on Sound and Audio Devices and doubleclick on it. You should be able to put a checkmark in Place Volume Icon in Taskbar and all will be well.
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September 26th, 2004, 11:37 AM
#11
Nah, doesn't let me.
Say's
''Windows cannot display the volume control on the taskbar because the volume control program has not been installed.''
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September 26th, 2004, 11:44 AM
#12
Registered User
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September 26th, 2004, 11:48 AM
#13
Thnx, but it says
''To resolve this issue, extract a new copy of Sndvol32.exe from the Windows XP compact disc to the system_root\System32 folder on your computer's hard disk''
I don't have XP disc as I bought the comp second hand and it came with it pre installed, but no disc as he wanted it for his new comp.
Maybe I should just buy one?
Also, I noticed the scrollbars are pretty big, why is this and how do I make them smaller? Other things seem big too like the 'x' in the corner and some file images, like when I save a .txt file.
Last edited by houllier*; September 26th, 2004 at 11:53 AM.
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September 26th, 2004, 12:00 PM
#14
Registered User
 Originally Posted by houllier*
Thnx, but it says
''To resolve this issue, extract a new copy of Sndvol32.exe from the Windows XP compact disc to the system_root\System32 folder on your computer's hard disk''
I don't have XP disc as I bought the comp second hand and it came with it pre installed, but no disc as he wanted it for his new comp.
Maybe I should just buy one?
I'll try hosting that file somewhere for you. I pm you a link.
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September 26th, 2004, 12:22 PM
#15
Geezer
 Originally Posted by houllier*
..I don't have XP disc as I bought the comp second hand and it came with it pre installed, but no disc as he wanted it for his new comp...
So errrm errr that makes your software probably illegal, but lets just forget I said that (Either his is or yours is anyway, just be aware !)
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