installing with ntfs

[ishy]

Every time i try to set up 98 it tells me it cant install with ntfs. and i dont know how to fix it

[ShadowKing]

Windows 98 does not support NTFS.

You need to use Windows 2000 or Windows XP to support that File system.

[ishy]

how do i change it so it is compatible to 98?

[Votan]

use the fdisk utility and reformat the disk. the fdisk utility is on the boot disk, a floppy disk.

[ishy]

the drive i need to fdisk has a really weird name with a lot of symbols that i don't know how to type. i need to type the name of the drive in order to fdisk it. what should i do? how do i make these symbols?

[Votan]

Ishy,

the formatting with fdisk is multisteps. If you haven't done it before, or if you do not know what you are doing, which appears to be the case as I could determine, it is sure thing to find someone who can do the formatting for you. If you could chat on MSN IM I probably could help you interactively.

[ishy]

no, you don't understand! you have to type in the name of the drive you are trying to fdisk in order to confirm the fdisking. the thing is, the drive was labeled with weird symbols that i have to type in to confirm the fdisk. i just need to know how to type the weird symbols.

[Damned Angel]

go to the manufacturers web site and look for a diagnostic program or a zero fill program. if you have ascii characters for a lable, either the drive is messed, or someone really does not want the drive to be fdisked.
If its symbols like these, then its ascii code.
O\▌╞╜,○╣₧┴╩¢Yñ}█╬Æ╕

you may be able to duplicate it if you know your ascii tables, but unfortunatly since you had no idea what it was you probably dont.

[ShadowKing]

Actually, there is a really easy way to do it.

If you have or can get ahold of a Windows 2000 ro XP disc, boot from that and delete the partition.

That will take care of it for you.

You can also choose to create a FAT32 partition at that time if you wish, or you can boot with Win98 and use FDisk...

[ishy]

i keep getting this: Message SU0013
To set up Windows 98, your startup drive must be
an MS-DOS boot partition. If your startup drive is
formatted as HPFS or NTFS, you must create an MS-DOS
boot partition before running Setup. For more
information about creating an MS-DOS boot partition,
see your computer documentation.
what do i do?

[Matridom]

Ishy, try the following... If the primary drive is NTFS, then you need to delete non-dos partiion. Secondly, if the label is all messed up (and i've seen some weird ones) the type "label c:" at the command promp, it will let you put in any name you want.

Also, if you have a desktop running any of the NT flavors, plug you HDD into that system and use the disk manager to delete all partitions.. all done.

If worse comes to worse, download the diag utility for the hdd and use it to clear the drive.

[Votan]

[quote]Originally posted by Damned Angel:
<strong>go to the manufacturers web site and look for a diagnostic program or a zero fill program. if you have ascii characters for a lable, either the drive is messed, or someone really does not want the drive to be fdisked.
If its symbols like these, then its ascii code.
O\▌╞╜,○╣₧┴╩¢Yñ}█╬Æ╕

you may be able to duplicate it if you know your ascii tables, but unfortunatly since you had no idea what it was you probably dont.</strong><hr></blockquote>

If the symbols are encription the ascii translation means nothing without the decription software. I wonder if this is the case with ishy.

[Sowulo]

Download and run either <a href="http://service.boulder.ibm.com/storage/hddtech/wipe.exe" target="_blank">Wipe</a> to rewrite the entire HD with 0's (up to 8Gb) or <a href="http://service.boulder.ibm.com/storage/hddtech/zap.exe" target="_blank">Zap</a> to just overwrite the partition and master boot record (MBR) of your drive. These need to be run from a bootable floppy.

[KINGofBLEH]

[quote]Originally posted by ShadowKing:
<strong>Actually, there is a really easy way to do it.

If you have or can get ahold of a Windows 2000 ro XP disc, boot from that and delete the partition.

That will take care of it for you.

You can also choose to create a FAT32 partition at that time if you wish, or you can boot with Win98 and use FDisk...</strong><hr></blockquote>

Shadow King's got it dead on. Use the setup utility on the 2000 boot disk set to remove the NTFS partition and leave the space unformatted. Then use a Win 98 boot disk an go into FDISK and repartition the drive with FAT32.

[Platypus]

It's also possible that what FDISK is looking at is the code of a stealth boot sector virus. Run FDISK /MBR from the boot floppy to re-write the Master Boot Record, and see if it helps.

If the label is still jumbled, you should be able to re-name it with a copy of DOS's LABEL.EXE (LABEL C: ) , then in FDISK delete the non-DOS partition & start again.