Btw,.. whatever happened to the simple tradition of men treating women with respect? I guess we tossed that out the window once we decided that we don't care if George Bush lies to us or not. Dignity, integrity, respect, the golden rule, -- all that stuff got tossed out once George W Bush got elected. He shoved all that stuff aside and instilled his own set of "principles" into this country that guide people with greed and then they hide behind their alleged "christian values".