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    Have 4 printers, want to reduce to 3

    I currently have 4 printers and these take a lot of space, I would like to reduce this to 3.

    These are the ones I have:
    HP PSC2410 all in one for photo quality prints, scanning and faxing
    HP Business inkjet 1100 for normal large quantity printing
    Brother QL-550 label roll thermal printer for shipping label stickers
    Epson R200 for CD printing

    Here's what I'm thinking of doing to get this down to 3 printers to save a bit of space:
    Replace both the HP PSC2410 all in one and HP business inkjet with the HP officejet 9110:
    http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en...72-376173.html

    This means I will give up on HP for photo quality and use the Epson which does a good enough job and has a reasonable amount of ink per cartridge rather than the ridiculously tiny HP photo cartridges. I very rarely print photos, maybe one or twice a year, more often then not for other people.

    The Officejet would be my main printer for everyday prints and large quantity printing since it has enormous ink cartridges like my current HP business inkjet (the officejet basically has the same printer built in but it's a bit faster at 25 pages per minute).

    Does this sound like a good idea? I realy LOVE my hp business inkjet, it's FAST and does tons and tons of prints before running out of ink (rated at 1750 pages), so I'm sure I will love the Officejet even more.

    I don't want to use the epson for normal printing because it's absolute crap for that (terribly slow, horrible print quality for text on normal paper), so it's simply unusable for this purpose (I tested it, small text that is perfectly clear onthe HP is absolutely unreadable on the Epson).

    So does this sound like a good idea? 4 printers in my small room is just too much, 3 of them are on the floor because there's no space!

    Thanks

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    Dump the 2 inkjets and the thermal, then get a color laser. It'll do nice photos, and makes great labels, plus you'll be down to 2 printers then!

    Or, stick with what you have, unless you have an overabundance of money you don't know what to do with. 1 less printer isn't really going to clear up that much space is it??

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    As I said in ym other post there's no way in a million years I'm gonna pay 12 times the ink/tiner cost to get lower quality prints and turtle slow 4 pages per minute (color lasers above 4ppm are way above my budget).

    And if you don't beleive me that even a $10 000 color laser can't do nice photos ask HP for free samples and see for yourself.

    And the point I got the thermal is so that I dont have to switch paper types every 2 minutes and wait 'til I have 10 labels to orint (letter sized label sheets have 10 each), not to mention that printer is about half the size of a mouse pad so there's no way I'm getting rid of it, I'm also making a program to automaitcally print my labels to with when I get an order, this would be impossible without a label dedicated printer.

    Actually one printer less will make a big difference, since the thermal is so small I can't even say it uses space at all, so it's like I'm going down from 3 printers (both I'm replacing are HUGE because they are a business printer and an all in one) to 2.

    I finally decided to get that Officejet 9110 to replace my 2 HP inkjets, here's the advantages over the color laser all in one in similar price ranges:
    -23 pages per minute VS. 4 for the laser
    -4800 DPI resolution VS 600 for the laser
    -12 times cheaper ink cost per page
    -Automatic double sided printing (not even an option on the laser)
    -A lot of paper types (glossy, labels, etc) other than plain paper can't be used on laser and will instantly break the printer

    So why in the world would I want a laser? It's like asking "Do I want to pay $600 for this inkjet all in one, or $800 for this laser that offers nothing but dissadvantages other than waterproof prints, will cost me more than 10 times more to run, offer much lower print quality, be much slower, doesn't print double sided which I'm addicted to since my first HP double sided printer".

    So it really makes no sense at all for me to get a laser, perhaps if my budget was over $2000 I could get something with decent print speed, but I don't want to pay that much, and it'll still end up costing me 10 times the ink/toner cost.

    And, I got the Officejet for half price ($300 vs $600) on eBay with only 70 pages printed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClickHere2Surf.com
    As I said in ym other post there's no way in a million years I'm gonna pay 12 times the ink/tiner cost to get lower quality prints and turtle slow 4 pages per minute (color lasers above 4ppm are way above my budget).
    First page out, yes. After that, even most of the lower end lasers smoke inkjets.

    And if you don't beleive me that even a $10 000 color laser can't do nice photos ask HP for free samples and see for yourself.
    I've been selling and servicing HP's for 10 years now, so I have seen plenty of samples, and it will depend on what you are printing. I still give photos to inkjets, but only on special paper, and in some of the inkjets, with a separate photo cartridge installed. Other than that, an inkjet (even business class), doesn't touch the quality of a laserjet.

    And the point I got the thermal is so that I dont have to switch paper types every 2 minutes and wait 'til I have 10 labels to orint (letter sized label sheets have 10 each), not to mention that printer is about half the size of a mouse pad so there's no way I'm getting rid of it, I'm also making a program to automaitcally print my labels to with when I get an order, this would be impossible without a label dedicated printer.
    Very understandable. I've serviced many thermal label printers, (mostly Zebra), and they are very fast, and offer a decent quality for the price. You could however, go laser, and add a tray for labels, and code your software to pull from that tray, but you still have the per sheet limitations on a laserjet; so I'll agree with you here, a thermal label printer is a good choice based on your needs.

    Actually one printer less will make a big difference, since the thermal is so small I can't even say it uses space at all, so it's like I'm going down from 3 printers (both I'm replacing are HUGE because they are a business printer and an all in one) to 2.
    The 1100 is definitely a decent sized printer, but to call the 2410 "HUGE" is just crazy - I got one sitting on my desk along with 2 monitors, 2 keyboards, 2 mice, a UPS, speakers and a network stack, and I still have plenty of room.

    I finally decided to get that Officejet 9110 to replace my 2 HP inkjets, here's the advantages over the color laser all in one in similar price ranges:

    -23 pages per minute VS. 4 for the laser
    -4800 DPI resolution VS 600 for the laser
    -12 times cheaper ink cost per page
    -Automatic double sided printing (not even an option on the laser)
    -A lot of paper types (glossy, labels, etc) other than plain paper can't be used on laser and will instantly break the printer
    (6 times faster, 8 times the quality, and 12 times cheaper ??)

    So why in the world would I want a laser? It's like asking "Do I want to pay $600 for this inkjet all in one, or $800 for this laser that offers nothing but dissadvantages other than waterproof prints, will cost me more than 10 times more to run, offer much lower print quality, be much slower, doesn't print double sided which I'm addicted to since my first HP double sided printer".

    So it really makes no sense at all for me to get a laser, perhaps if my budget was over $2000 I could get something with decent print speed, but I don't want to pay that much, and it'll still end up costing me 10 times the ink/toner cost.
    OK, you've made your decision, so no need to continue this thread any further. Like I've said before; if you're satisfied with inkjet quality, then that's all that matters.
    He's picked a printer, thread completed.
    Last edited by 3fingersalute; April 9th, 2005 at 10:07 PM.

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    "First page out, yes. After that, even most of the lower end lasers smoke inkjets."

    Im not talking FPO, how can you possibly say that a 4ppm laserjet is faster than a 23ppm inkjet? The inkjet puts out one full color page every <3 seconds (I know, my current inkjet is the same as the one in the officejet) while the laserjet takes 15 seconds per page on it's fastest setting at 4ppm.

    Explain how the laserjet is faster by taking 5-6 times longer to print every page?

    I fulyl agree that some inkjets arent as good as lasers for photos, just like the business inkjet I have, the print quality is horrible for photos, but I'm not using it for photos. My photo inkjet's quality simply can't be beat.

    "(6 times faster, 8 times the quality, and 12 times cheaper ??)"

    Not sure what the point of that line was?

    "OK, you've made your decision, so no need to continue this thread any further. Like I've said before; if you're satisfied with inkjet quality, then that's all that matters."

    I'm very happy with my decision, perhaps when/if my sales increase enough I will get a laser to have water print proofs... uh water proof prints, but I still think the toner cost is way too expensive, not to mention around $500 to cahnge the cartridges, even if they make 4000 pages (I can get as many prints with less than $50 in refills).

    I simply can't afford a laser now, well I could the lower end ones, but the quality is really garbage from those and they cost even more in toner. Maybe when I can afford the $2000+ ones and afford $500 cartridges I will, but not for now.

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    Just an observation. Take it or leave it. You asked for help in determining which printers to keep. One, and only one person, replied to you. Actually put himself in your shoes, thought it out, and posted his thoughts.

    You systematically tore his answer apart, like it was a debate. Not every decision is made based soley on cost. Being a business owner, I am ultimately responsible for the bottom line, but there is something called "The cost of doing business". I like to surround myself with the best tools to be able to do my job with the least worries. So I just work a little harder to make up for the extra costs.

    You've asked for input in the past and ripped people for their answers. Maybe that's why there was only one reply.
    Sergeant WOTPP

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    as 3fs said. decision made thread completed.

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