Windows 7

**Hagarthehorrible** · January 12th, 2009, 10:12 PM

Well said - I agree completely.

Let us know if you can get McAfee 8.5 enterprise to work. I am in the exact same boat.

**BOB IROC** · January 12th, 2009, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by Hagarthehorrible

Well said - I agree completely.

Let us know if you can get McAfee 8.5 enterprise to work. I am in the exact same boat.

So far no luck. I have installed some software with no problem. Vista Drivers seem to work fine so far on the VM and I plan to test on an actual computer or more than one. Office 2007, Adobe CS3, all plug ins (Acrobat Reader 9, Flash, Shockwave, Quicktime, Java) all installed with no problem. I am just doing some early testing to know what I am up against if we decide to roll it out when it is released. That and I am a geek and like to play with new software.

I plan to do a little playing around with McAfee but running it in compatibility mode does not work so I am not sure what can be done. Maybe McAfee will release 8.6 or something before Win7 is released. I hope they do not charge as we got 8.0 - 8.5 for free.

**BOB IROC** · January 12th, 2009, 10:34 PM

Looks like beta versions of VirusScan Enterprise 8.7i may be what we are looking for.

http://www.mcafee.com/us/enterprise/...7i/vse87i.html

not sure when it is officially supposed to be released and it doesn't say anything about Windows 7 support but it may be worth a shot.

**Hagarthehorrible** · January 12th, 2009, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by BOB IROC

Looks like beta versions of VirusScan Enterprise 8.7i may be what we are looking for.

http://www.mcafee.com/us/enterprise/...7i/vse87i.html

not sure when it is officially supposed to be released and it doesn't say anything about Windows 7 support but it may be worth a shot.

It just might be. I tried McAfee tech support today to get this issue cleared up. The on-line support dropped me like a hot potato as soon as they found it was an enterprise edition 8.5. They then gave me a toll free number to call where I spent more time trying to explain how I got the software rather than having my questions answered. At the end I hung up in frustration because the guy was totally clueless.

I just noticed your location - out of curiosity, are you anywhere near the Columbia Yacht Club?

**BOB IROC** · January 12th, 2009, 11:19 PM

I logged in and got the 8.7i beta and I will try to install it on my VM tomorrow and see what happens.

As far as my location goes I actually live and work in the South Suburbs of Chicago so I am not really in the City. But I am within 30 miles or so which means I am close enough I guess.

I ran into a similar situation when we needed to upgrade our McAfee. Our registration was registered to a previous employee and had to jump through hoops to get support and prove who we are. When Vista was released (and I was testing the beta) I found out McAfee 8.0i did not like Vista and got the upgrade to 8.5i which added Vista Support as well as a 64bit scanning engine. I hope that 8.7i will be the same or whatever version the plan to release. I think we pay an annual subscription cost which gives us our upgrades for free anyway.

**Hagarthehorrible** · January 13th, 2009, 05:38 AM

Same thing here - the federal agency I work for provides McAfee to its staff.

The reason I was asking about the yacht club is that before we got a bridge to the mainland (www.confederationbridge.com) we used to use the boat that is now the Columbia Yacht Club clubhouse ( http://www.columbiayachtclub.com ) as a car ferry.

**slgrieb** · January 13th, 2009, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by NooNoo

Ummm none of those are reviews, they are opinions about what those authors think M$ should do...

What we have here is PR fight. I will start taking them seriously when I see some technical reviews.... something these authors probably aren't up for.

MS has restrictions on publishing benchmarks on the 7 beta, no? But, Jason Perlow should really be writing children's fiction, not tech material. If he's written anything about either Vista or Win7 that isn't drivel, I missed the blog, but I wouldn't miss Jason.

**BOB IROC** · January 13th, 2009, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by slgrieb

MS has restrictions on publishing benchmarks on the 7 beta, no? But, Jason Perlow should really be writing children's fiction, not tech material. If he's written anything about either Vista or Win7 that isn't drivel, I missed the blog, but I wouldn't miss Jason.

Thats the problem today and is one of the major reasons people think Vista is riddled with problems. People believe opinions of bloggers, friends that think they know about computers, and the damn Apple commercials that are nothing but over the top dramatizations. I, on the other hand, like to experience it for myself and so far most of the so called Vista problems that I have read/heard about are not Vista problems at all.

**Hagarthehorrible** · January 13th, 2009, 07:04 PM

Ditto! Speaking of the Apple commercials, if you ever get a chance rent the last of the Bruce Willis Die Hard series - Live Free or Die Hard. Justin Long (the Apple guy) plays a hacker who uses only Linux.

**BOB IROC** · January 13th, 2009, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Hagarthehorrible

Ditto! Speaking of the Apple commercials, if you ever get a chance rent the last of the Bruce Willis Die Hard series - Live Free or Die Hard. Justin Long (the Apple guy) plays a hacker who uses only Linux.

Yeah, I actually liked that movie. Don't get me started on linux. My Boss wanted to replace WIndows with some flavor of linux like Ubantu or somehting and go open source for office software. Seeing as we are in education and we get Windows OEM with the computer and we get Office Standard for like $15 -$25 a node with staff take home rights there is no real savings. I even asked Dell how much we would save if we stripped the OS from our computer purchases and they said like $2 a unit. IMO it is not worth the headache. Yeah it may save $60,000 or so every time we need to update Office but it is not worth the support headache for our computer inept staff.

Well anyway we are getting a bit off subject. I tried to install the McAfee 8.7i I downloaded from their site and it must have been corrupt. McAfee supposedly is sending me a later build (my network manager said it was the final build and not the beta). If I get my hands on that I will try. Support could not confirm or deny that it will work with Windows 7

**Hagarthehorrible** · January 13th, 2009, 09:25 PM

I am still trying to decide how to install 7. I recall with other MS betas that if you went the upgrade route, you could uninstall or roll back the installation once the beta was done. I'm leaning towards this because the only way I can install my Roxio & Lightscribe software is on my system recovery disk. In the case of 7 I have read conflicting information on if an uninstall or rollback is possible.

My other option is to go the dual boot path, but then would I have access to the software stored on my C drive so I could run it from the partition?

**BOB IROC** · January 13th, 2009, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by Hagarthehorrible

I am still trying to decide how to install 7. I recall with other MS betas that if you went the upgrade route, you could uninstall or roll back the installation once the beta was done. I'm leaning towards this because the only way I can install my Roxio & Lightscribe software is on my system recovery disk. In the case of 7 I have read conflicting information on if an uninstall or rollback is possible.

My other option is to go the dual boot path, but then would I have access to the software stored on my C drive so I could run it from the partition?

Well if you could always do it in a Virtual Machine using Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 (limited to the 32bit version) or I did it in VirtualBox from Sun Microsystems which supports 64bit Client OSes. To me drivers are not the big issue as I am more looking for software compatibility.

**Ferrit** · January 14th, 2009, 12:05 AM

I am also agreeing with Bob Iroc
Vista 64 for the last 2.5 years and no real issues
Other then a dieing raid card and 2 dead seagates.
I know I know I aint sure who killed who the card or the drives.
Also I have never run 32 bit Vista odd as that sounds.
Alot of BS and oh so and so said its crap and so and so used it and took it off his compaq 5000.
I guess so i wouldnt run win 98 on that junk
Heh

**Guts3d** · January 14th, 2009, 06:51 AM

Just got a copy of 7 to try yesterday, am buying a new board to try it with. Does anyone know if it is 32 or 64 bit, or will both flavours be available later?